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Thursday, August 25, 2011

Harper promotes a moral panic to enforce a monopoly for Alcohol Producers and Tobacco


Has anyone ever noticed that there are no intelligent questions coming from the interviewers these days?
Drugs aren't bad because they're illegal, the reason drugs are illegal is because they're bad. ...

Are there no critical thinkers left in the news media? This is the most outrageous assertion anyone can make on behalf of the alcohol and tobacco monopoly. Are Alcohol and tobacco not mind altering substances that are often misused and kill people, Mr Harper? Are they not bad because they are legal drugs, Mr. Harper? Are these statements by Mr. Harper simply marketing poisons which have a defacto monopoly due the governments misapplication of the drugs and substances Act?
By making this false dichotomy and inaccurate statement (illegal and legal drugs is a concept not known in Law) Mr. Harper has likely condemned thousands to death or hardship of addictions to "legal substances" which by implication are not considered bad. I conclude that he will be directly responsible but never held to account for the misery of many who will die smoking tobacco and from alcohol addiction
By inference, this moron whom the people of Canada have elected as their dictator, has promoted the legal drugs over the "bad drugs." Is Mr. Harper on the pay role of these corporate manufacturers of poisons? Does the Prime Minister not have access to the myriads of studies since the times of alcohol prohibition in the 1930's, including the latest report March 2010 by the British Columbia Center for Excellence in HIV AIDS which concludes, as they all did, what is apparent to anyone who has eyes, ears and the ability to reason that:
…the existing evidence suggests that gun violence and high homicide rates are likely a natural consequence of drug prohibition and that increasingly sophisticated methods of disrupting Canadian gangs involved in drug distribution could unintentionally increase violence. From an evidence-based public policy perspective, gun violence and the enrichment of organized crime networks appear to be natural consequences of drug prohibition. In this context, and since drug prohibition has not achieved its stated goal of reducing drug supply, alternative models for drug control may need to be considered if drug supply and drug-related violence are to be meaningfully reduced.
Not the use of substances which causes the problems but the laws

It is a no brainer that we the UDS came to this conclusions in our document LAD-00023 requesting a section 56 exemption from the Health minister:
Therefore, the inclusion of psychedelic drugs, to wit marihuana, psilocybin, lysergic acid diethylamide, dimethyltryptamine and analogues, salts and isomers thereof, is contrary to s. 2(b) of the Charter as it infringes upon freedom of thought, but is such infringement within “reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society,” thus saving the scheduling by s. 1? The purpose of law is to promote justice, judgement and peace. The aforesaid academic, corporate study concludes that a likely natural consequence of your prohibition is homicide and gun violence. Therefore, this infringement of cognitive liberty is not reasonable, for it promotes gun violence, and violence is the opposite of peace and is the act of the unjust: it is injurious, and it is unreasonable for people to be injured by the acts of a purportedly free and democratic society.
Wasn't Paul Martins Government trying to desperately create Folk Devils by promoting hateful lies and breaking the Hate Crimes Act as well as the Broadcasting Act in 2005 during the aftermath of the Mayerthorpe tragedy?


You better believe that I was smoking a joint and more alert than the government of Canada. I caught the Federal Ministers in an organized crime (2 or more)perpetrating a hate crime on National TV and they failed to hold themselves to account. CRTC file# 233039 At least the CRTC upheld the law but the gov of Canada excused itself with a retraction and an apology from the Commissioner of the RCMP. The government of Canada and its courts is a criminal organization which considers itself above the law. (I was the only one to complain and stop this overt propaganda blaming pot growers and by implication smokers for this dastardly crime) I seem to be able to say this, have proven it, yet not a single so called activist has stepped up and thanked me for stopping this crime. Not much help is forthcoming from any organization/growers/dealers which benefited from the fact that I stopped this defamation and likely enactment of severe penalties such as are coming now. No help from the executives in major media organizations who do drugs in their spare time. NADA!

The people who work in the courts are unaware of the issues and complacent in their attitude towards justice. They walked by the illegal and offensive TASER warning signs in every court house in BC. Lawyers, Judges and Clerks demonstrated that they don't understand the law and are not concerned with the safety of the citizens whom they apply their warped sense of Justice too. Read the email (no hard copy was sent so that the facts will be lost) thanking us pointing this out to them by the head Sheriff to the Registrar of the UDS:
"Thank you for your e-mail of November 23, 2009 addressed to the Attorney General regarding the TASER warning sign posted at the Vancouver Provincial Court house. I have been asked to respond on behalf of the Attorney General.

I appreciate your bringing this issue to the Attorney General’s attention. As a result of the Braidwood Inquiry recommendations, I have directed all sheriff offices to remove the TASER warning signs located in secure areas of British Columbia courthouses.

Yours sincerely,


Dave Maedel
Executive Director and Chief Superintendent
Sheriff Services Division, Court Services Branch
Ministry of Attorney General"
Never heard a friggen thing in the propaganda press about this act of knowing the law better than those charged to dispense Justice. Why is that? Is it because we were on LSD when we saw this?

Just search Canlii and you will see many examples of the lack of understanding supreme Court Judges have by constantly using the propaganda terms "illegal and legal drugs." Such incompetence in an area where precise language is critical shows me that law schools in the country rely on the monopoly lawyers have once they begin to practice law to make up for their incompetence.

The only logical rational conclusion I can draw from the Court's obtuseness and the Crown prosecutors insistence on painting me a delusional drug dealer is that the are consciously trying to implement tyranny of the executive branch of the Government. There can be no excuse for not seeing the facts and the results of their failed policy being perpetrated on the citizens of Canada. Mr. Harper is responsible ultimately for the misery of millions and murders of thousands to satisfy his perception of "Drugs are bad."

Here is someone who speaks the truth. In my Affidavit to the Supreme Court I describe myself as a shaman / scientist. Perhaps they misunderstand my gifts and call me deluded / mentally ill simply for my aspirations to make this a better world for all.

Thursday, July 14, 2011

Neural Diversity: some people are born with different operating systems inside their minds





So now I am doing this court ordered forensic psychological review. Listen up here and pay attention. This is serious business and should you ever be confronted with it having read this might make you more aware of what to expect. There is a consensus that I am displaying a certain set of symptoms. I don't know about you but I have always known that I was not the same as all of the rest of the monkeys. It started off with some heavy medication in my early teens. Phenobarbital was one ingredient, dilatin and trimadone pharma crap made up the cocktail. I was doing this before I started toking. Three times per day. Continued until before 16. This was in the day when we saw a guy with what looked like a fancy assed ice-pick on the News Claiming he could heal troubled minds. Anyways once I started smoking pot I never had a need for that medicine again. Now on reviewing my own videos and audio productions (A sample of them) I can see where some may call me over the top. Mostly it is not when I am on any psychedelics. The are probably audio recordings around which would to a trained ear declare me off balance. Thankfully I make no threats or off collar remarks, although I do use abusive language. This much I know, I am not perfect but I do seem driven at times. Irrational at times but never really dangerous. Way the fack out there, oh yes! A rebel with a cause and a just one at that.

I have a few things to get straight about why I put myself at such risk. Have any of you ever wondered what happened to the good old class clown? The person with the odd clothes or the class dreamer; where have they gone? What has become of them?

Does everyone get that we are each of us unique in some way and some of us are way out there in a big way? You can really say that our brain chemistry is divergent. Thank god for the difference, eh! I like it, I am well behaved and don't wish to take anything more pharmacological than the substances I enjoy taking. The fact that my health care card expired in 99 should clue someone in that I am healthy and have mastered my own health care. Now, maybe for any kind of change to happen there must first take place deviation.

Like I said to the pretty young Phd, "I sure hope they are paying you enough for this.... because they ain't paying me anything!" I notice that most of the young professionals I meet nowadays are female. Is that also a divergence from the norm in the grand scheme of things. What will life be like if America fails financially? The times they are a changing. One thing is for sure, governments have no clue about how to handle the future. It might actually be a good time to go to jail and get three squares a day and a warm bunk. Who knows what will happen. God decides, anyways. I sure miss my Wolf. I treat the dog I'm with as a replacement in the hopes good karma comes my Wolf's way.

The government is spending a considerable sum to make a criminal out of me for smoking my favorite medicine. I suppose it is taking a lot in in taxes from the monopoly of alcohol and tobacco to be able to afford it. It is a sad situation that reason is always left out of any courtroom situation. Maybe I am divergent for wanting to be treated equally to a cigarette smoker or drinker of alcohol. I just might be a bit of a troublesome goat instead of the preferred sheeple.

I love diversity of every kind and I embrace my own. I hope you do too!

Thursday, June 30, 2011

Am I stupid or is the Justice System?


This is really frustrating for me. I have just come back from my Bail officer. I came. I signed. I have reported and received a letter requesting my attendance at the Forensic Psychiatric Services office. I need to attend on the 11th and on the 15th July see someone else in the office. This is a court ordered thing. They have to see whether I am a threat to society, a real criminal, insane perhaps for wanting justice?

Just let me review my activities since I ran for City council:
Monday, September 8, 2008
Cannabis sales in Vancouver, today!
or even the first post on this blog
Tuesday, August 12, 2008
On the BC Almanac radio show today


Since this is my journal of my thoughts and activities it is not even clear that I had Mens Rea or a guilty mind

Or even here where I appeared on this issue and was recognized by the parliament of Canada, my words forever part of Canadian history. Chief Justice Bud the Oracle from the Unincorporated Deuteronomical Society.

I don't know what shysters got to be entrenched in our justice system but there seems to be a full compliment of them. If I am your common run of the mill drug dealer then I don't understand why they haven't caught every last one of them? I mean the friggren gall of the Crown Prosecutor to make me out as a drug dealer when at every step I claimed that I was doing this for the safety of my community. Why a lawyer trained in the law (like a circus seal?) can't get that across I would not know. I have had a public record available to be perused by any and all since August 2008. It's not that I was shy and reluctant to write anything either.


The other thing is the obvious disconnect that a judge must have from reality to forget the disproportionate treatment of two equally behaving, law abiding citizens of Canada according to which substance they might choose to achieve their favorite altered state.

If a person is doing nothing different than another, what they may have ingested, or even carry on their person should not be a consideration for different treatment. If what possession is being carried by another is of no direct threat to anyone else than the government has no right to have a say about anything. Criminal law governs only human action against other humans or their property. If someone is misusing or abusing something someone then criminal law can be applied. But then conversely someone who is not misusing or abusing anything or anyone should also be treated differently: not like a criminal.

The above are principles in law. The treatment of similar circumstances alike and the treatment of unalike differently page 112 RAILWAY EXPRESS AGENCY, INC. V. NEW YORK, 336 U. S. 106 (1949)
Invocation of the equal protection clause, on the other hand, does not disable any governmental body from dealing with the subject at hand. It merely means that the prohibition or regulation must have a broader impact. I regard it as a salutary doctrine that cities, states and the Federal Government must exercise their powers so as not to discriminate between their inhabitants except upon some reasonable differentiation fairly related to the object of regulation. This equality is not merely abstract justice. The framers of the Constitution knew, and we should not forget today, that there is no more effective practical guaranty against arbitrary and unreasonable government than to require that the principles of law which officials would impose upon a minority must be imposed generally. Conversely, nothing opens the door to arbitrary action so effectively as to allow those officials to pick and choose only a few to whom they will apply legislation, and thus to escape the political retribution that might be visited upon them if larger numbers were affected.


The learned Judge Rideout mentioned that he thought this citation was too old. That brings to mind other old but valid quotes
Professor Laurence Tribe of Harvard Law School has cautioned:
"In a society whose ‘whole constitutional heritage rebels at the thought of giving government the power to control men’s own minds,’ the governing institutions, and especially the courts, must not only reject direct attempts to exercise forbidden domination over mental processes; they must strictly examine as well oblique intrusions likely to produce or designed to produce, the same result."
--L. Tribe, American Constitutional Law Sec. 15-5, at p. 889 (1978) (quoting Stanley v. Georgia (1969)
394 U.S. 557, 565.)


"...cognitive liberty must guarantee freedom from – the right not to have your brain monitored or directly manipulatedwithout your informed consent. Seventy-five years ago, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis warned that scientific advances might someday “bring means of exploring unexpressed beliefs, thoughts and emotions."
Olmstead v. United States (1928) 277 U.S. 438, 474

“ freedom of thought … is the matrix, the indispensable condition, of nearly every other form of freedom. With rare aberrations a pervasive recognition of that truth can be traced in our history, political and legal.”
- Justice Benjamin Cardozo, Supreme court justice


"…without freedom of thought there can be no free society. "
- U.S. Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter


And of course this one is an old quote which is also very much valid today, IMO
Thoughts are free and are subject to no rule.

— Paracelsus-

So what has got me thinking today? I am confused over why it is that a man or woman can come in to the liquor store to buy a bottle of what amounts to poison which is subject to no warning labels as to causing harm during pregnancy like FAS, perhaps some warning about personality changes, and lethal dangers if taken with other drugs. Nothing Nada! Considering that in a twenty six ounce bottle drank in one sitting there is enough to kill half of those who might be foolish enough to try it. Alcohol can be purchased twice or more times a day and drank responsibly even consumed at a high rate of 2 to 3 ounces per hour and this person's health care coverage is fully intact as long as they cause no one else harm by driving or even riding their bike drunk. If this person walks to the liquor store, walks home, they are not a criminal or a citizen without rights. Where as someone who chooses to be less inebriated with marijuana can not be so peacefully without being a criminal and or committing a criminal act supporting illegal drug dealing. Why the double standard here? Is this not enforcement of a cultural preference as if it was a monopoly. If it had something to do with being about public safety or health concerns then one must ask why Alcohol and Tobacco are not treated the same.

This drunk person could be mean and reclusive, dark and vengeful without ever being criminal. They could hate their neighbors, be unfriendly, laugh inappropriately, and make rude remarks without crossing the criminal law line.

This drunken person will likely become a healthcare risk and finally a recipient of expensive health care treatment. Nothing could be done about it when this person was abusing a dangerous but 'legal' substance, or two. Alcohol and tobacco. The most dangerous to the user as well as the others, healthcare costly drugs, are exempted from having to comply with restrictions and regulations concerning all dangerous substances. The fact that they are exempt from the Drugs and Substances Act is telling of two things: Like circumstances are not being treated alike as they should be under law. It should not make any difference what substance one chooses to ingest. The only difference is if the resultant action were different. If for instance, a crime were committed after alcohol was ingested, to be in a state of intoxication would be of no consequence to the outcome of guilt or innocence and therefore a crime would have taken place. Also the converse is true, if I am not committing any crime or in any way threatening any one else, then my behavior should not be criminal in any way. What I have ingested, has no bearing on anything. Especially when the only detrimental impact is due to the law which has been created to be neutral in its application, ostensibly for public health concerns, yet leaves out the most dangerous to the user and society drugs: Tobacco and alcohol.

You can't have equal treatment under the application of law if you exempt the users of the most dangerous drugs from the same law which protects others from other dangerous substances with severe criminal penalties. And you shouldn't be able to say 'well they are controlled under two different laws and therefore it is acceptable to be harsh toward the users of some substances and not others.'

The minister is not doing his duty to protect the many users of these two 'legal' drugs. As I have stated before, his duty is to control and regulate in accordance with the risks posed. This is to protect the individual and the public. This is an on going duty. The minister according to his duties outlined in section 55 must act and bring before parliament any concerns that fall under the act. The Act was never meant to be an instrument of prohibition. Simply making something illegal to possess is not something that can be lawfully done under the criminal code. Property laws apply to anything to do with things or substances. Criminal law is supposed to pertain to the actions of people against other people or their property.

By bringing the alcohol industry into the safety net of the CDSA it can be made to comply to labeling laws stating the dangers of misuse in a concise way and recommended limits of so much per person per day might be considered. The same could be done with other substances according to their potential dangers to the users and the community.

Anything else is not mandated by the CDSA. The CDSA was never meant to be an instrument that would arbitrarily target small group of users of substances for moral reasons and make them into criminals for their safe use of something no more dangerous than other substances for which no criminal penalties were given, like tobacco and alcohol.

Thursday, June 16, 2011

Vancouver hockey riots fueled by Alcohol

I am seriously tired of the wholesome bubbly marketing CBC has spouted about hockey and its fans.

One thing I will be wanting in appeals court or any bullshit court in this country is the same rights these animals get. It is the Minister's duty to apply the neutral Controlled Drugs and Substances act for the proper effect it was designed for: Public safety from dangerous substances through control AND REGULATION. The way it is applied now the Minister uses this act as an instrument of arbitrary oppression used selectively against the minority of people who choose other substances to achieve a safer more introspective state of mind than alcohol users do.


The courts are supposed to protect citizens from arbitrary abuse of power by the government and make sure that the laws are applied equally neutrally for the effect that they are designed to. Judges are not required to be Prohibitionists to serve on the bench. Where is the protection from these drunken hockey hooligans? Two weeks of loud celebrations to promote a sporting event for the boon of alcohol establishments is pretty fucking near enough for me. I want the same rights as these hooligans have, to go about my peaceful business of making the community safe. And I will have them, you fucking government assholes!

I am very tired of the governments doing a poor job having, the worst records on issues vitally important to its citizens:
B.C. child poverty at play in 21 child deaths: children's advocate


Screw off if you think I will not appeal my unjust plea. The Crown prosecutor and Judge coerced me to cop out by jailing me before a trial. They can not use this law to arbitrarily harm people who are trying to make their communities safer by giving citizens a safe alternative choice other than corporate controlled alcohol to celebrate with. At any marijuana festival or event in which psychedelic use is prevalent, you don't find this kind of danger to people.

When laws are applied equally to all citizens for the effect that they were designed for, community safety, and not political purposes inflicting a moral judgement, then I will rest.

I remember that the Prime Minister Stephen Harper had some publicity supporting the NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs lately. Not too long ago he also had a photo op proclaiming drugs are bad. What fucking drugs are bad, asshole?

How much did security cost the city Chief Jim Chu? Oh yeah you have it under control, eh?



Are you saying something about a drug free life idiot? Does that mean you don't drink? And your children are at the age they are exposed to alcohol now and they will never drink? Is it true that Alcohol is not fucking dangerous? or creating violence? Are you do something about the connetion youngsters have with Hockey and drinking? Are you saying that drugs do damage to people and not alcohol? Stick it where the sun don't shine, moron. Making policy on bullshit never leads to a good outcome.

This man, our Prime Minister, is talking selectively and conveniently forgetting to mention the most dangerous substances Alcohol and Tobacco. The Minister in charge of the CDSA has a duty, is charged, to include all dangerous to the public substances. This does not mean prohibition. He has the power to regulate. The act is supposed to be about control and regulation. By exempting, for no good reason other than it is not politically expedient, the users of these drugs from the act the legislation itself becomes an illegal instrument of oppression. The courts should protect the citizens from oppression and make sure everyone has the same rights and protection under the application of a law. The courts have no jurisdiction in drafting or writing the law, but must act when a law is being used to treat some people unfairly(equal treatment under common law.) In section 55 of the CDSA it says the minister has a duty to public health to bring all dangerous substances under its control. He does not have a duty to leave out the most dangerous substances while trying to harm others for their use of safer substances. Until the law is fairly and equally applied as it was intended, for public Safety, it is not a legally valid instrument and we must be protected by the court from its misapplication.

And I know why people like Stephen Harper, GWB, Ronnie Regan get to make it. GENETIC PREDISPOSITION "DO HUMANS HAVE A POLITICAL GENE?" by Klaus Kaczor (an Oracle in his own right) SINCE I FIRST WROTE UP THIS STUDY FOR THE EDITOR OF AL JEZEERAH SOME CORRECTIONS HAVE COME TO BE NEEDED 25% LEFT + 25% RIGHT + 50% MIXED POLITICAL ALIGNMENT = 100% SAMPLE INSTEAD OF RR(25.78)+rr(24.22)=Rr(49.93) IT SHOULD BE RR(25.78)+rr(24.22)++++++++++Rr(49.93)==== 100% of the sample. What can you expect I was constantly stoned on good marijuana during the whole genetic voter research and did it without a government grant on less than a half ounce of good Kush.

That was the output of my addiction. A theory about political expression in our genome Two hits of Window Pane acid (LSD.) And about a half ounce of pot consumed in the week that the research mania was upon me some fifteen years later. My life is an exciting confabulation of experiences, none of which threaten anyone else, nor do I break any real criminal laws. What was tolerated as "legal behavior," which most of last night's riots was technically, although drunken and dangerous in its mood was allowed then we do nothing wrong when peacefully using our preferred substances. Some of the behavior was unlawful and the police tried to enforce criminal laws pertaining to illegal behavior of people which is also applicable to any mis users of any substances. Even when nothing but pure propaganda makes a crowd misbehave blocking of sidewalks is also tolerated as well as DANGEROUS BEHAVIOR.


Or, I ask again what is the reason I can not be engaged in my spiritual pursuits peacefully if my behavior is peaceful? In the video I ask why I can't stroll through a park peacefully on LSD when Hockey fans get to enjoy themselves worshiping whom they wish?


So why is the drugs and substances act being applied by the courts ON SOME PEOPLE if it is not applied fairly to all users of dangerous mind altering drugs for the purposes it was created? Why is LSD illegal when the harm it potentially does its users and society is miniscule in comparison to Alcohol? To what end is one peaceful set of substance users made into criminals while a much more dangerous segment of abusers allowed to enjoy their version of the good times? And since when have we thinking, responsible, people given up the right to engage freely in whatever peaceful state of altered consciousness we choose? I am all for there being an Act fairly applied to the users of all dangerous substances in an equal application of the law. I think it is about time that all substances including the most dangerous and ubiquitous ones such as Alcohol, tobacco refined sugar or other dangerous to public as well as to the individual, products.

Criminal law does not govern action between you and your body, or, you and any third party adult who chooses via knowledge of the facts to engage with you for fun and/or profit. It cannot be otherwise in a free country. For anyone else to interfere in a peaceful man's chosen form of liberty, would negate all principles of freedom. A society which is built to have children snitching on the adults, and neighbors against each other is not really worth living in. So when some people complain of the smell of pot in their hallway, or trafficking from the adjacent patio, it is a way of making them point out the 'Jews' so that the Plant Psychedelic Gestapo(PPG) can come and do their entheogenic cleansing.

What a friggen hoax these criminals in power pull on us who are captured in the "Bovine Entrapment." Oh, wink, wink! you can't posses or trade in these criminally sanctioned substances, because we know that they are bad for you...... Also, wink, wink! you will note that these dangerous substances which we know are bad, but which a majority of people enjoy using, are perfectly legal and any entrepreneur who follows the rules, verifying legal age, not intoxicated mental state, can sell tobacco or alcohol, over the counter. Alcohol can even be brewed as beer or wine by individuals without a permit.

I can not tolerate anyone who bows to the government's medical marijuana racket. This stuff would benefit humanity and do many people good socially, physically and mentally if its use became more prevalent in the community. The effects are not as destructive both physically and spiritually as are those of alcohol. Loss of cognitive ability with motor skill impairment comes quickly on alcohol. A personality or severe mood change can take place without warning. Irrational violent behavior is a common outcome for alcohol intoxicated people. No such things happen with moderate amounts of marijuana. People have mental states which are relaxed and predisposed to a calm state of reflection. That is the essence of smoking pot "Make love not War!"

What is your problem Mr. Parliamentarian? What perusal of the Hansard has given you any indication that there exists enough brainpower in Parliament to screw with the mechanisms of human nature and spiritual freedom? Why do Politicians think they are entitled to discriminate against, and arbitrarily target, a certain segment of their own population on the basis of personal moral choices. Really? "Drugs are bad?" "Which friggen drugs are bad?" Why not treat the worst ones as public health issues.....? That is what the law is created for isn't it? Each substance according to its own danger to society so that those which are more of a risk will be safe guarded against appropriately.

The fact is I choose to exercise different aspects of my mind other than those involving alcohol and sporting events and there is no sound sane reason that I shouldn't have the choice to follow my own path. It is the fool who dares to shake the stick a holy man sits upon.

And I have no qualms about these people selling timeless teachings in the video below. If it is cool to sell fast food, religion. and many lousy movies, as well as sad sporting events for inflated prices, then what these people are asking in the video below is merely a bit of recompense for getting all the info together. It is hard to market even creative material assembled well for excellent prices, isn't it?